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In game one of the 2010 NBA Playoff Series between Chicago and Cleveland on Saturday night, Bulls point guard Derrick Rose shot 13-28 from the field, 0-2 from three point range, and 2-2 from the foul line, for a total of 28 points on 28 shots. He added 10 points and 7 assists, and generally played well; it was his scoring bursts in the second half that kept what could (and perhaps should) have been a blowout down to a single figure game for much of the fourth quarter. He also didn't run away from Mo Williams on defense as much as I thought he might, although this didn't prevent the rest of the team from doing so.
However, had Rose been the beneficiary of some foul calls, his stats would have looked even nicer, and the game would have been even closer. Shooting 28 field goals to only 2 free throw attempts is not easy to do, even if Rose has done it before, and for a man who takes only pull-up two point jumpshots, floaters and layups, it's very hard to do.
But it happened. And the reasons as to why it may have happened are evident in the following video.
Derrick Rose honestly doesn't get fouled a lot. He tries to avoid contact so as to maximize the percentage of making his shots, and, because of his great athleticism and body control, he is able to do this to great effect. This is the main reason why he doesn't get to the line much, and also why he shoots such a high percentage. Only one play in this clip is shown from the first half of the game, and in that first half, Derrick Rose took 16 field goals and 0 foul shots. This is not an injustice, because Derrick Rose wasn't fouled on 15 of his 16 field goals. (And the one on which he may have been fouled, the first clip in the film, Anderson Varejao may have gone straight up, thus making the no-call the correct call.) The shots he took were floaters, open layups and jumpshots that he got himself open for, either in isolation or pulling up off the dribble.
This is an issue with Rose independent of his standing with the referees; sometimes, he just needs to go for the contact and hope the shot goes in anyway. He is learning to do this, but doesn't do it a huge amount. And he did not do it in the first half of this game, save for that one drive.
However, that's not what this video intends to prove. The intent of this video is to highlight a problem that has plagued the Bulls for two straight seasons. Put simply, even when Derrick Rose is fouled, he isn't. And he doesn't get as many foul shots as he should.
It is not a statement that implies any Cavaliers bias, because the theme behind this video applies to pretty much every game Rose plays in, not just Cavaliers ones. I have only used clips from this one game, not because I couldn't use clips from other games, but because I could not be arsed to use clips from other games. (A key difference that needs highlighting.) Additionally, it is both duly noted that there are not a huge amount of disputed calls in this video, and that some of those that are included are not clear-cut fouls as defined by the rulebook (and most subjective interpretations of it).
Yet it is also of note that Rose drew only one foul the entire game, the one featured at the end of the clip. Between that and a kicked ball violation in the third quarter, Rose didn't draw a single whistle in the remainder of the game, all while taking 26 field goals inside the three point arc, pushing the ball in transition and doing his damnedest to get into the paint at all times. All fouls should be evaluated on their individual merit, but in the context of the game, the lack of calls for Rose in this or any game does not behoove his style of play and aggressiveness around the basket. For every foul Rose avoids, there's a foul he draws without a whistle.
I feel that this needs highlighting.
And yes, it was a goaltend by LeBron.
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22 Response to "Why Derrick Rose Isn't Very Good At Drawing Fouls"
really dig the video. Good that someone puts this stuff together. Rose will really push the next level if he can draw a little more contact.
Those are NOT GOOD replays as they are in real time and from a single camera angle.
Honestly they would have to be in slow motion and from different views to accurately say if they were fouls or not.
Bunch of Chicago Pussies cant get over some good calls Well Cavs in 3 i guess
they ARE fouls for Lebron and not for Rose simple as that. Just because Rose isn't the King or top 10 Superstar is why he doesnt get the call shit Lebron gets touched going to the basket ans he's going to get the foul ALL THE TIME if not 90% of them at the least! Make a video of Lebron's fouls in Game 1 of the Bulls since this video is pretty biased if you don't compare the two!
fuck that poster at 2:36pm. he's a fuckin tool ass bitch!
nba and refs' justification for Rose no-calls. he's a PG. those refs need to be fired and nba took home court advantage to a whole new level.
the one foul that truly pissed me off is when a bulls player was given a foul when shaq tripped himself and fell to become a fuckin beached whale.
The thing Rose doesn't do that Lebron, Wade, Carmelo or any other Superstar All-Star is bitch and complain to the refs when a call doesn't go his way. If Lebron even isn't really hit or touched and there is "some" contact and no call, he gives the stare to the ref or complains admently to the refs. Hell, KG even drops F-bombs at the refs and never really gets T'd up for that. Lebron, Wade and Carmelo have been protected ever since they came into the league. They had to be cause the league had to build new stars as from the time MJ retired from the Bulls(his true retirement) to the time Lebron came in, the league had been in a lull.
Now, Lebron does get fouled alot and gets hit and deserves that call, but so does Rose who gets hit just as much. For the poster stating Good Calls, that 3rd "Block" by Lebron was a Goaltend, if you had DVR and I do, I replayed it in slow-mo and the ball hits the glass and then is hit by Lebron/Williams or West, which by rule is a ....GOALTEND. I just think Lebron does it so much that the refs have accepted not calling it on him. For Lebron being a good defender? Ever notice all of his blocks are from behind never face-to-face? Like Deng's block of Lebron face-to-face or Noah's block of Varejo face-to-face, that is good defense.
Why would he want to shoot two freethrows instead of just getting the easy two points with his superior skill!?!? Doesn't make sense! Stupid article.
Why would he want to shoot two freethrows when he could just get the easy two points with his superior skill!?!? Doesn't make sense! Stupid article.
This author is just jealous and a hater because Rose is SO freakin' good and he's embarrassing the entire league with his superior & transcendent skill.
Rose effortlessly scores the basketball & dazzles us with his God-like skill and you want him to go to the freethrow line!!!!???? You shouldn't be talking about anything basketball related.
Free throw lines are for pussies!!! Rose keep doin what you're doin, going hard and emabarrassing every player in the league!!!!
Heh. I like you. I particularly like how you have no idea what you're rallying against. Good times/
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To reiterate; I realise these are borderline calls. Some of them are probably not fouls. It's about half and half, I'd say. But therein lies the point; Rose doesn't get borderline calls. The foul at the end of the clip is the only foul he drew all night, both in the act of shooting and on the floor. He's not THAT bad at drawing fouls. Rose needs to work on his flailing and his yelling, as well as his desire to jump into defenders, yet this doesn't change the fact he really should get more than he does.
Nice video, thanks for putting it together.
dumb ass!
See, this is why I turned off anonymous commenting.
I think Rose just needs to adjust to the refs a little bit.(As sad as that is to say) Nice video and great points.
I don't blame you.
Enjoyed the article, though. I haven't watched the Bulls much, so it was an interesting read, good sir.
Also, just for shits & giggles, here's a list of guards with a better FTA/FGA than Rose. The fun part is where you pick players that have little business being ahead of Derrick Rose in anything (except on a list of players more terrible than Derrick Rose. Yeah.)
Kyle Lowry
Chauncey Billups
Dwyane Wade
Devin Harris
Andre Miller
Brandon Roy
James Harden
Ramon Sessions
Dahntay Jones
Deron Williams
J.J. Redick
Tyreke Evans
Manu Ginobili
Andre Iguodala
DeMar DeRozan
Eric Gordon
Jarrett Jack
Russell Westbrook
Ty Lawson
Kobe Bryant
Lou Williams
Richard Hamilton
Tony Parker
Wesley Matthews
Ben Gordon
Delonte West
Will Bynum
Earl Watson
George Hill
Rodney Stuckey
T.J. Ford
C.J. Watson
Rajon Rondo
Ronald Murray
Ronnie Brewer
Stephen Jackson
Chris Paul
Vince Carter
Baron Davis
Jamal Crawford
Jonny Flynn
Monta Ellis
Corey Brewer
John Salmons
Jason Terry
Ray Allen
Yeah.
So basically you want Derrick Rose to pretend that he's weak and has no skill. That's like Goliath trying to make it look like he's getting whooped David!
So basically you want Derrick Rose to pretend that he's weak and has no skill. That's like Goliath trying to make it look like he's getting whooped by David!
So basically you want Derrick Rose to pretend that he is weak and has no skill. That's like Goliath trying to make it look like he's getting whooped by David!
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